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        technology play. We have our fees, pressure tries to drive   Who has had the biggest influence on your career?
        the fees down, the ISOs try to drive the fees down and
        the credit card companies try to raise the fees. Margins on   I would probably have to say my lead professor at college.
        interchange don't affect us at all. If anything, I would say   He  taught  me  the  difference  between  engineering  and
        it's a positive thing for companies like us because it helps   technology. He taught me that there is nothing new in
        us defend against Square.                               technology. If you look at the first payment terminal, it
                                                                was a combination of a modem, a magstripe reader, a
        There was a time when we had a lot of merchants that    keypad and a printer. It was nothing new; it was just a
        would use our online terminal for only a few dollars per   new combination of existing technologies. He had a big
        month, but they would only do one or two transactions a   influence on my perspective on technology and also my
        month. We ended up losing those merchants to Square. If   career
        you work out the interchange rates between Square and
        a standard merchant account, the interchange rate on a   How has the payments industry evolved since you
        standard merchant account is always going to be lower.
                                                                founded your company?
        But if you work out the basic fees, for gateway and     I think the biggest thing is Europay, Mastercard and Visa
        statement fees, then it only works out lower if you are   (EMV). That's changed the focus and raised the barrier to
        doing more than maybe $1,700 a month in credit card     entry for the industry for a lot of people. EMV has made
        revenue. That helps us lower margins for the merchants,   it much more difficult on people who are developing
        because the lower the interchange is for those merchants,   software in their spare time in their spare bedroom as I
        the more they want to use us instead of Square. It doesn't   did 20 years ago. However, the whole push behind EMV is
        help the ISOs; it's squeezing their margins, but we are not   clearly meeting its intended goals of securing things. You
        getting a piece of that pie anyway                      can't steal an EMV chip and burn it into another card and
                                                                buy a big screen TV at Best Buy.
        How does eProcessing Network help
        small and midsized merchants?                           What do you see as especially challenging in the
                                                                industry, and how is the industry affected?
        With lots of tools that increase merchants' own efficiency
        throughout  their  busy  day.  Things  like  inventory   Requirements like PCI, PA-DSS, QIR, and the costs to
        management, bill pay, and accounting integration.       implement such things are a big challenge these days.
        When we populate their accounting packages with the     The credit card companies are imposing these security
        transactions they ran through our gateway, it saves them   requirements that have to be met. They charge hundreds
        a heck of a lot of data entry, especially with inventory   of dollars to take a test to certify for QIR [Qualified
        management.                                             Integrators and Resellers] that our tech support agents
                                                                now have to pass to be able to do the installation of our
        What advice would you give to a software developer      software with a merchant. It's costing us a lot of money
        who is just starting out and wants to enter the         to  be  compliant  with  these  things,  and  it's  one  of  the
                                                                ways that the brands are raising the barriers of entry for
        payments industry?                                      everyone across the board.
        I would say learn as many languages as you can because
        there is nothing you can do today that can be done with   What books have inspired you recently?
        one programming language. You have to have software
        on your computer that is written in one programming     The  Hard  Thing  About  Hard  Things:  Building  a Business
        language that communicates with servers written in a    When There Are No Easy Answers by Ben Horowitz.
        different language, and then you want to integrate it into   It's  the story of  Ben  Horowitz and Marc Andreessen,
        accounting packages and that is also written in a different   who started Netscape. They charged hundreds, even
        language.                                               thousands of dollars for website servers and browsers
                                                                even though Microsoft was giving them away for free.
        Any good programmer will tell you after they have       They still managed to continue to grow in the face of that
        been programming for a  few years, by  learning  one    competition. I was a big Netscape fan back in the day.
        programming language, you can learn any other language
        within a matter of days.







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